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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS Tony Sidaway|Talk 11:44, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Similarities between Babylon 5 and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

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Original research. Unencyclopedic. Delete. Indrian 03:43, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep. Easily checked, encyclopedic. Kappa 04:08, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Looks like the purpose of this article is to accuse the producers of DS9 of ripping off B5. Even if it's not, it's still a pointless, unencyclopedic POV rant. /sɪzlæk˺/ 04:34, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • It seems to be unsourced speculation without a really encyclopedic purpose. Delete. Meelar (talk) 04:35, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete unencyclopedic. —Seselwa 04:36, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Unencyclopedic. Fancruft. Slac speak up! 05:14, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, cleanup and expand. Megan1967 06:37, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. I have very little against fancruft. Sjakkalle 07:03, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. There are infinite possibilites for comparisons between TV shows, and this kind of trivial material is non-encyclopedic. Would make an interesting page on a Star Trek fan site (I'm a trekkie myself).Halidecyphon 07:13, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete as apples-and-oranges comparison. Radiant_* 07:15, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge. It could be merged into criticisms in the main B5 and ST:DS9 articles or a section called DS9 in the B5 article and vice versa. It's not really an apples and oranges comparison though, there was a fair bit of controversy about the similarities. I disagree that it's a POV rant, if you take out the bit about it being "doubtful that they were intended for a future series at the time" and "(DS9) began doing so in later seasons, though its producers contend that the entire series was one long story arc", then it's just showing you the similarities. Besides the article says that mostly they are only on the surface really and the TNG had already laid the ground work on Cardassian/Bajor stories -- Lochaber 14:34, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. This is fancruft. Just think of all of the rubbish this could start. "differences between Klingons and Darleks". "Similarities between sheep and cows". No. --Bucephalus 16:19, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Oi! It's spelled "Daleks"! — JIP | Talk 16:31, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
      • WE WIRLL EXTRERMINARATE THRE FANCRUFT. EXTRERMINARATE. --Bucephalus 17:18, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge with the main B5 and DS9 articles, which already feature much of this information. The fact the two shows have similarities, and that fans of B5 accuse DS9 of ripping off the idea -- and vice versa -- was one of the major sci-fi controversies of the 1990s. I don't consider this to be original research. A little POV as presented, possibly. 23skidoo 18:02, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge the NPOV parts to the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine article. DS9 has been notably accused of ripping off B5, and the DS9 article should have at least a mention of the similarities. Dave the Red (talk) 18:21, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge. I agree with points mentioned above.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 20:19, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, original research, not encyclopedic. Unless you'd like my article on Similarities between lions and sponges. RickK 20:28, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge factual info from the respective shows into their own pages but delete this article. --Fuzzball! (talk) 01:10, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete this fan discussion. Calling this a "major sci-fi controversy of the 1990s" is a real stretch. Rossami (talk) 06:10, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, merging salvageables. Mikkalai 02:36, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Note: you can't delete and merge. You need to redirect and merge to keep copyright history; I believe policies state your vote will be treated as keep and merge even though that's not what you said. Mozzerati
  • Delete original reasearch, cruft. --InShaneee 16:50, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete fancruft, original research, non-encyclopedic etc etc etc Jackliddle 16:54, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • delete but the author should consider suing someone about this, it would be a much more interesting way to settle the debate than writing a wiki page about it. Mozzerati 07:11, 2005 Apr 10 (UTC)
  • Merge the NPOV bits per Dave the Red. Similarities between Pokemon and Digimon this is not. —Korath (Talk) 14:45, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep but add the opposite opinion
  • Keep Otherwise similiar material will have to be duplicated in the main articles about each series. I don't see that this will lead to a number of comparison articles between different series; because this is a special case. B5 and DS9 are major TV series that came out at much the same time, sharing a surprisingly large number of features. :ChrisG 19:19, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Suggestion just put the material in the discussion of the one which is supposed to be copied, where it would have to be in a limited form anyway, and make a single reference (XXX has claimed that the other series YYY is a copy of this) in the article of the earliest series. This will not be a problem. (this doesn't change my vote to delete above). Mozzerati 10:39, 2005 Apr 17 (UTC)
  • Keep This is a topic that many fans of one show or the other are interested in. The similarities are glaring. The article is NPOV IMHO. Robertbrockway 18:51, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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