Talk:Symonds Yat

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The OS map says "Symonds Yat", not "Symond's Yat".

I blanked the text on this page, which was a verbatim copy of the text on http://www.btinternet.com/~yeatesprint/ross/symyat.html (with some interpolations). That web page was marked "© Copyright 1997 - 2002 RossonWye.com". -- Heron

County border

According to this article, Symonds Yat (East) is in Gloucestershire: this is communicated through the words "Symonds Yat East is on the Gloucestershire side of the river" and with a Gloucestershire-based infobox.

But if you look at an Ordnance Survey map, or if you go on Street View (follow the road north from Symonds Yat rock), or if you go there in person, you find that the Herefordshire-Gloucestershire border in this area does not follow the river Wye, but cuts across the peninsula formed by the meander of the river. According to the OS maps available, Symonds Yat Rock is in Gloucestershire, but the hamlet of Symonds Yat (East) - despite being on the "Gloucestershire side" of the river - is actually on the Herefordshire side of the border in the parish of Goordrich.

The current infobox for Symonds Yat (East) seems to be correct - but only for the Rock, not for either hamlet. I thus propose to change the Gloucestershire infobox to refer to Symonds Yat Rock, and the Herefordshire one to refer to either both Symonds Yat (West) and Symonds Yat (East), or simply to Symonds Yat.

A second thing, the OS spellings for the hamlets include the brackets in Symonds Yat (East) and Symonds Yat (West). We should follow their convention. Kahastok talk 22:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Kahastok talk 10:34, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clearing up the boundary issue. But there is no need at all to follow OS convention on the names. Even if OS maps were a definitive source for 'official' names (they're not), WP:PLACE guidance is to favour common usage over obscure formal names. I can't find a single source other than OS using the bracketed versions, but a lot of common usage for non-bracketed ones. Joe D (t) 20:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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