Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alpine Club of the University of Leuven
With no hit on Google from the English title "Alpine Club of the University of Leuven", only 9 hits on the Dutch title "Leuvense Universitaire Alpinisten Klub" and only 90 members, I personally think this student outdoor/climbing society is not worth an encyclopedic article. --Edcolins 13:14, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete: Non-notable. If there is a university entry, this can be merged to a section, but no separate article. Geogre 13:42, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Keep: these guys have climbed the north face of the Eiger, it may not be noticable to you, but I'm pretty sure that it is very useful for climbers, especially those interested in information about climbing said mountain and for climbers from Belgium. Perhaps a climber or someone from the University of Leuven may comment about the popularity of this club. Who knows if one day someones creates a Timeline of Eiger ascents and LUAK is mentioned but we don't have an article about it? This article doesn't hurt anyone and it is NPOV and informative, so why the hell would you delete it? /boggle I don't know about you, but I learned a lot of new info with just this small article without even visiting their website. I did got a few hits for "Alpine Club of the University of Leuven" on Google, and saw it mentioned on the website of the Sports Council of the Catholic University of Leuven Student Organization. [1] By the way, size is irrelevant, it doesn't matter if the club has only 90 members; you should be focused on their accomplishments instead. —Joseph | Talk 16:50, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)
- How did you get a few hits on your google for "Alpine Club of the University of Leuven"? You must be kidding. Mine returns 0 hits [2]... --Edcolins 18:38, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)
- Comment from the author: isn't that normal? We speak dutch here, not english. I just thought it might be interesting for some people, not for everybody of course. You decide guys.
- Remove the quotes young padawan: [3] [4] —Joseph | Talk 02:07, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)
- Obviously without quotes you get multifarious web sites, master Jedi...;) --Edcolins 19:25, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
- How did you get a few hits on your google for "Alpine Club of the University of Leuven"? You must be kidding. Mine returns 0 hits [2]... --Edcolins 18:38, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Not notable. I hope not every student organization in every university everywhere starts making entries for themselves. Oy! --Improv 18:08, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Delete no more notable than the clubs from Dartmouth College. RickK 18:14, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Katholieke Universiteit Leuven. This information should be preserved. The resulting redirect is not the best but will preserve the history; Perhaps later move the redirect to University of Leuven and list the resulting Alpine Club redirect (which will then have no significant history) as a redirect for deletion. The thing we lose by this, of course, is the category link to climbers. Andrewa 18:53, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Comment: It'd be nice if we could get some sort of rough consensus on what counts as a notable student society - some may be quite article-worthy.
As far as this particular one goes, I'm undecided.Lacrimosus 23:39, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)- Comment: for a student society, why not the same as for a person? That is, if mentioned by people outside the society reasonably often, whether in the press or in books or on the web or in other media, then it is notable. If no-one knows much about the socieety except the members, and it's not doing anything especially unusual, then however big it is, it really isn't notable, at least for encyclopedia purposes. One shouldn't explect to find information local rock-climbing groups and local bowling leagues and local bridge clubs and local trampoline clubs and local antique car enthusiasts in any encyclopedia, though one might occasionally find one mentioned in an article on that interest. Web directories and local lists of local clubs and associations is normally the place for such things to be mentioned. Jallan 00:46, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Comment from the author again: OK, delete it, no problem. But am I allowed to say one more thing please? :-) Concerning the argument about press and media: I will give you some external links that you don't find on google. article 1: from a local newspaper - article 2 and article 3: from national newspapers - video: LUAK on television - article 4: LUAK in a climbing magazine - audio: LUAK on national radio (ok, this was some years ago) - website 1: LUAK on the most popular belgian climbing website - website 2: LUAK discussed on a climbing forum - interview: an interview with a LUAK member (one of the members that climbed the Eiger).... so you see, google doesn't say it all! Delete LUAK, but remember it for the future. ;-) ciao, Maarten
- I suppose that sounds reasonable. Some functions of some student organisations might make them notable even if they aren't widely known. In this case, Delete. Lacrimosus 22:10, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Comment: for a student society, why not the same as for a person? That is, if mentioned by people outside the society reasonably often, whether in the press or in books or on the web or in other media, then it is notable. If no-one knows much about the socieety except the members, and it's not doing anything especially unusual, then however big it is, it really isn't notable, at least for encyclopedia purposes. One shouldn't explect to find information local rock-climbing groups and local bowling leagues and local bridge clubs and local trampoline clubs and local antique car enthusiasts in any encyclopedia, though one might occasionally find one mentioned in an article on that interest. Web directories and local lists of local clubs and associations is normally the place for such things to be mentioned. Jallan 00:46, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. Ambi 05:04, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Delete another student organization probable vanity piece. -- Cyrius|✎ 19:00, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)