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Former featured articleDevil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
April 11, 2007Good article nomineeListed
April 18, 2007WikiProject peer reviewReviewed
April 28, 2007Featured article candidatePromoted
June 20, 2007Featured topic candidatePromoted
June 2, 2008Featured topic removal candidateDemoted
July 24, 2008Featured topic candidatePromoted
October 19, 2009Featured topic removal candidateDemoted
April 13, 2014Featured article reviewDemoted
Current status: Former featured article

Chronological order

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Correct me if I'm wrong. DMC3 is what happened before DMC1 or 2. Next (for the series to make sense plot-wise) comes 1. then 2 and 4. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.24.240 (talk) 00:24, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gameplay image

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The new one is good because it displays a HUD and so on, but it's not from a final build of the game. It doesn't accurately portray gameplay. --Boradis 01:38, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah it has been kind of a pain finding those without a Gamespot or IGN logo, I will look for one tonight. -凶 23:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How's this? Image:PokeyPwnsVergil0000.png Quality is a bit crap I know, but Pokey was the one recording at such low quality... --Warp L. Obscura 15:46, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's ok. -凶 20:09, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced, then. If anyone wants to improve on it by getting a similar capture in better quality, please do so. --Warp L. Obscura 10:31, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Allusions in the DMC series

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I haven't visited this article for months, and I'm glad to see that it has been greatly improved. Now I found a little strange that a section titled "Allusions in the Devil May Cry series" was completely removed. I think that this is the sort of information that is worthy to be present in the article.

The story alludes to The Divine Comedy in the game's areas (roughly resembling and representing inferno, purgatorio, and paradiso) as well as in some of the character names; however it is purely an aesthetic similarity, and indeed the game borrows from a very wide range of sources for inspiration.

Regards, --devil_may_care flag 16:27, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was removed, IIRC, because of the issues with WP:SYNTH it created. Though the allusions are there, it's a lot harder to include them in the article without reliable sources. Cheers, Lanky ○ Yell ○ 18:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Development

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Do we need any more on it? I found this article that has Tanaka talking about the potential for the "conflict" between Dante and Virgil (sic) and the need to place it before DMC1, but I am not sure if it is relevant enough. --Warp L. Obscura 01:27, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism

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Please see the following image, and give your ideas about inserting something like this in the bottom of the article:

File:DMC3-Kabaa.jpg
The door of the demonic world resembles the door of Kabaa

Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition shows Vergil/Dante entering the demonic world through a door that resembles the door of Kaaba, thus arising criticisms among muslims[1], and giving rise to several speculations about Capcom being racist[2].

Sadeq 03:41, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:OR, WP:RS, WP:V, WP:NPOV you make the choice, there you have at least four reasons not to include this on a Featured Article. - Caribbean~H.Q. 03:47, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the expression might be changed, but it is a fact proven by the picture. In fact, it is not an "Original Research," because I searched the net and found many others sharing the same idea with me. Also, one can trust his eyes as a "Reliable" source for this. It is by no means "verifiable," but can be called a "conjecture." Search the net for 'Capcom' and 'racism' to see how many people have the same idea. And finally, I think I'm a neutral person. I 'love' Capcom's games, specially the RE series. So, why am I adding something 'against' them? Because I think it's a valuable 'fact'

As a final point, I don't want to force this into the article. I think we need to wait and see what's the idea of other people on this. Sadeq 20:11, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Its still original research, but the worst problem is that there aren't any reliable sources. - Caribbean~H.Q. 20:12, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ "احذرو من لعبة Devil May Cry 3".
  2. ^ "THE HISTORY OF RESIDENT EVILS RACIST HATE CRIMES".


"See also"

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Man, I don't even want to know how long that piece of OR has been there. We on the DMC Task Force fought a long battle against stuff like that, and it's disturbing to see it creeping back and not getting caught by us! Thanks, uh, "Turd the Borg" for removing it. But, er, yeah, you should change that username. -- Boradis (talk) 13:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I see those "see alsos" have been there since before this and the DMC1 page were FA. But considering the rest of the OR that was culled was equally "obvious" and uncited, but more importantly the fact we do NOT have a cite saying that Kamiya used the Divine Comedy as inspiration (thought it is indeed rather apparent) should they stay? I come down on the side of "no." --Boradis (talk) 13:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

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The article doesn't have a picture on the gameplay, so wouldn't it be better to remove one plot image and replace it with a gameplay image? --Mika1h (talk) 19:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Divine Comedy

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I'm sure many already noticed that the game's settings and characters are references to Dante's Inferno, the first part of the poem "Divine Comedy". Besides the name of the main character being "Dante", you also fight a demon that refers to 'death' pretty early in the game. Afterworlds, the confrontation with Cerberus. Plus, the common enemy demons being named after the 7 deadly sins. There are more... shouldn't this be mentioned anywhere? --84.109.242.255 (talk) 05:09, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, im reading the divine comedy right now and the first book is literely called "inferno" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.185.151.205 (talk) 02:19, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Needs wikification

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References such as 27, 28, 29, 30, etc need cite web templates. TGilmour (talk) 10:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Failed verification

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In section Other releases, there is the sentence: "...with Tetsuya Shibata and Kento Hasegawa credited as the producers.[53]". There is no information about that in the source. --Spillik (talk) 09:35, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaning up

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Hi, I'm Boradis, one of the founding members of the DMC series taskforce. I've got some time these days so I'm going to take a sweep through and see what I can do to spruce the page up since I last looked it over a few years ago. Any questions or suggestions, please post them here. --Boradis (talk) 15:59, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Read the section below and you will find my viewpoint on the issues this article has, that section is "Problems with "Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening" as a Featured Article:". IX|(C"<) 02:23, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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I looked up this article today as my first choice for reading one of the articles listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Reviewing pre-2008 FAs. I am not a fan of the Devil May Cry video games, but I just read this article because of "Reviewing pre-2008 FAs" and found it to be below Featured Article (FA) standards. Before explaining the issues here, I thought of the article as a whole compared to the contemporary FA. I checked the article again, just for verifying if I was right on the flaws I identified. My earliest findings on this article, "Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening", are that it needs additional references/soruces, has prose issues, and must be expanded. And the lead does not talk about the development of the game. The article also sometimes gets into mediocre grammar.

I am not the first user to report the problems with this article. Tezero created "Devil May Cry 3: Just telling you", a section on the talk page of Caribbean H.Q. (who was known as "Dark Dragon Flame" back when he developed the article into an FA in 2007) in which Tezero asserts it needs sourcing, has got to have a screenshot, and is "among the most likely WP:VG articles to get nominated for an FAR." He also says: "The second and third paragraphs of Gameplay are particularly glaring." So indeed yes, "Devil May Cry 3" needs an Featured Article Review (FAR). IX|(C"<) 04:20, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. IX|(C"<) 06:44, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The FAR is on hold pending a proper wait between the talk page notification of a potential FAR and the actual start of a review. Time should be given after the talk page notification for interested editors to respond and (hopefully) begin article improvements. If no improvements to the article are made after a proper hold period, the review may be restarted. Dana boomer (talk) 15:47, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So this is the article talk page, and you're in this section which mentions the article's issues. The 3 questions are below.

Question 1: Was there any involvement you had in Devil May Cry 3's FAC? IX|(C"<) 23:27, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question 2: Compare this article to a recent Featured Article (FA). IX|(C"<) 00:26, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question 3: What's your opinion on this article and how it does not meet current FA standards? IX|(C"<) 02:16, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I left these three questions here in case User:Igordebraga answers them. IX|(C"<) 01:56, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Don't know if I'm the best person for it, but...

  1. Only supported it.
  2. God of War: Ghost of Sparta is much more in-depth, better written and while it has less references than DMC3, their placement is better given that DMC3 has plenty of unsourced text following the refs.
  3. Unsourced material, underdeveloped\badly written sections (Development, Sales), lack of a gameplay image, the flaws overcome the good parts that made it an FA back in the day. igordebraga ≠ 04:18, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, igordebraga! :D IX|(C"<) 04:45, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Below are three tasks for PresN to do about improving the Devil May Cry 3 article. You've worked on mostly Square Enix-related stuff, including the recently GA-nominated/reviewed Secret of Mana, as well as indie games. I think you did edit some Capcom articles.

Task 1: Rewrite and expand the "Sales" section. Include reliable information about sales of DMC3 in several countries.

Task 2: Add plenty of references, citations, and sources.

Task 3: Upload a screenshot of the game with a "Fair use rationale" template.

Enjoy! IX|(C"<) 02:14, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Okay, I'm not sure why you decided that I was going to work on this article? I've never edited it before, reviewed it, played the game, or shown any interest in the article. I'd suggest asking nicely on the WT:VG talk page if anyone would like to help out instead of just picking random editors and demanding that they fix the article. I know you posted a big comment there a few days ago, but I'd try again, this time asking nicely and without rambling through a long, copy-pasted demand and trying to hand out tasks. I'm not adverse to helping out with an article when someone asks, but I don't really respond well to someone demanding that I fix an article I've never touched before, and neither do most people, I think.
  • As far as the article goes, your second point is very vague. Here's what I see are the problems that need to be addressed:
  • Unreferenced sentences (Gameplay)
  • Choppy, short paragraphs in Development, and the section as a whole could stand to be expanded if any sources exist.
  • The reception table is way too long, while the reception prose is vague and short. Seriously, there's link one medium-sized paragraph of actual reception on the game elements, from North America-only.
  • No need for a separate sales section unless more information can be found- usually it can't.
  • Choppy, short paragraphs in Other Releases.
  • Poor sources (the-laser.com, devilmaycry.org, Gamingtarget.com, Devil's Chapel, Gameslave)
  • Lead does not sufficiently cover the article (nothing about the development, almost nothing about gameplay)
  • Awkward wording and grammar throughout- needs a copyedit
Bad reference formatting (dates aren't consistent, there's a dead link, authors missing on several sources)
  • Honestly, I wouldn't pass this article as it is for GA, much less FA. It needs a ton of work, and you're going to have a hard time convincing anyone to do it- most people seem to prefer to write a new GA/FA than fix an old one. --PresN 18:40, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's already discussion about problems with this article as an FA in the article talk page, but I'm notifying WP:VG of this (again). IX|(C"<) 20:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


This article has poor prose, awkward grammar, unsourced material, underdeveloped sections (Gameplay, Development, Reception), unreliable sources (devilmaycry.org), an incomplete lead, improper formatting (even in references), and no game screenshot with a fair use rationale template. It no longer meets the featured article criteria. IX|(C"<) 05:53, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I hadn't even noticed all of this but it is in pretty bad shape. Tezero (talk) 06:41, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you Tezero. DMC3 had been promoted back when the FA standards were imperfect, and the current FA criteria is professional. Its FAR is already on hold, but (as of this revision) only 4 edits have been made to the article since I started the FAR: Very little improvement. IX|(C"<) 08:15, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, the FA and GA criteria seem to have generally solidified. For articles not requiring updates, this means ones promoted in the last few years are less likely to need FARs/GARs. I take some comfort in that. Tezero (talk) 08:43, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please rewrite this article because it no longer meets the FA criteria even though (as of this edit) it's still an Featured Article (FA)?

I, known as Mr. Gonna, did a massive copy-pasted comment about the Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening article and the problems against its FA status on this page a few days ago, and so far since then little improvement has been done. I found plenty of issues in it – including unsourced statements, a lack of screenshots, and poor grammar/prose – and some other users like Tezero, TGilmour, and Spillik did the same thing before me. I started the FAR after seeing no easy response/collabration from other users, which is why Dana boomer put it on hold.

It's hard for me to find someone who is VERY interested in maintaining its FA status through rewrites, and more people have desires to write a new GA/FA than deal with an old one (I updated Asteroids (video game) to GA status back in January 2014). The FAR did see response from Czar, but only since it's been on hold I've discussed the article's issues with igordebraga on both our talk pages and the article talk page, all while trying to improve it. There's an article talk page notification about the article and its issues plaguing its FA status, and I listed a request for the Guild of Copy Editors (GoCE) to copyedit the article. IX|(C"<) 20:18, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2 days ago I notified User:PresN of the article and its issues, as well as my efforts to maintain its FA status, then he responded that he did not edit article before, nor he played the DMC3 game, and he was unsure of why I told him to improve the article. I like his comments about it. IX|(C"<) 20:27, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you want my opinion on this, I say just wait for this article to be back at FAR and don't look back. I've been on this site for five years and have done enough reassessments to know when an article will not be salvaged mainly on account of lack of interest. Let's just let sleeping dogs lie on this one. GamerPro64 23:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean? Should we just refrain from FAR-ing it because no one will fix it? If it doesn't fit the criteria, it doesn't fit the criteria. It's not like anyone's relying on it for a featured/good topic. Tezero (talk) 01:39, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No, I think he's saying go ahead and FAR it and don't spend a lot of effort trying to get people to fix it- which I agree with. As I said on the talk page, most people are much more interested in writing a new GA/FA than fixing an old one, especially one with as many problems as this. Trying to get people to fix an article heading to FAR that's this bad is an exercise in frustration, because it's very unlikely that anyone will be willing- if they were, they would have already fixed the problems. --PresN 02:16, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Same thing has happened with List of Virtual Boy games; I ended up taking it to FLRC with no one touching it at all after I tried there. There's just not enough Wikipedians around who are interested in all of these subjects anymore. It's a shame, but if we were to really want to be able to keep up with all of the reviews, assessments, etc., we'd have to have our membership multiply several times over just to have enough editors interested in doing it. Everyone's interest is different, and that's a neat thing, but we have to have enough editors with different interests in order to keep everything functioning at top level. Red Phoenix let's talk...check out the Sega task force 03:18, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I read DMC3 because it is one of the articles listed at the "Reviewing pre-2008 FAs" page. 2008 was a big year for featured content, with a bunch of users involved in the reviewing process (even in FAR), people making efforts to upgrade Wikipedia articles within days, weeks, and sometimes months, and Tony the Tiger spending time on articles about baseball and art. Devil May Cry 3 was released by Capcom in February 2005 and the article about it was promoted to FA back in April 2007 after Caribbean H.Q. (then "Dark Dragon Flame") and other WP:VG members had a few months improving it. Today, many users aren't interested in maintaining the article, and more users prefer writing/reviewing new Good Articles (GA) and Featured Articles (FA) than those who deal with old GAs/FAs, causing problems that users like Red Phoenix seen in FARs/FLRs of old content like the aforementioned "List of Virtual Boy games" (especially if the article has several issues). Red Phoenix, I see that your FLRC of that list is ongoing as of this edit. IX|(C"<) 04:43, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I can see it. I prefer to bring articles that are lower-C-class or worse up to GA/FA to actually further public encyclopedic understanding of the topics rather than polish up doomed GAs and FAs that, while not fulfilling the criteria, aren't horrible reads. Tezero (talk) 07:02, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, I've gotten back on the pre-2008 FA page and checked out the Age of Empires articles. The series one is decent, but there are some serious issues with Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings and Age of Mythology, as I've outlined on the pre-2008 FA page. Giggy, who seems to have been their most active contributor, is no longer active on Wikipedia. Tezero (talk) 07:02, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I see you listed some examples here. Another article listed on the pre-2008 FA page is Radical Dreamers: Nusumenai Hōseki (promoted to FA status on February 9, 2008). The article has 43 references, some of them dead links like "parodius.com". The lead has poor prose and includes an unimportant sentence about Radical Dreamers' "planned" release at Akihabara. The lead's fourth paragraph is unsourced and includes facts not mentioned anywhere else in the Radical Dreamers article. "Characters and story" contains poor grammar. The "Development" section is too much quotes and too little original text, and it has only 3 references ("Music" has 2 references, 1 less than "Development"). "Biohazard" is not italicized in the section's first quote. The sentence "A reviewer for Home of the Underdogs lauded the game's excellent writing and the "superb" English translation patch, noting that the "interesting plot" would appeal to fantasy fans if they could stomach the limited interactivity" WP:NPOV-wise seems unbalanced, although Home of the Underdogs is a notable website. IX|(C"<) 07:45, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully, Zeality is actually active. IX|(C"<) 19:41, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Upon looking again, Age of Mythology has already been demoted. That said, I've read Empires: Dawn of the Modern World and found some issues, so I'm gonna write those up. Tezero (talk) 08:24, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Voyage: Inspired by Jules Verne (promoted to FA status on June 28, 2007) is in need of copyediting and cleanup. It is badly written with choppy, short paragraphs, poor grammar, and WP:BALANCE problems. "Intelligence Management System" consists mostly of quotes. "Development" has poor prose. The "Reception" table is too long. "Differences with the novels" is an underdeveloped and unsourced section. IX|(C"<) 19:09, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note to all those reviewing 2008 FAs: It would help to have your comments duplicated on the talk page (for people who come to the article in the future and aren't aware of the WPVG conversations or reviews). czar ♔ 19:46, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Look at this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ADevil_May_Cry_3%3A_Dante%27s_Awakening&diff=595769539&oldid=595705465 IX|(C"<) 19:49, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I've done it for mine, too. Tezero (talk) 20:06, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't edit game articles as much as I did, though I've always kept Metroid Prime tidy after getting it to Featured status (though some concerns have been raised, and I even put it on the GOCE backlog) and last year I saved The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap from GA demotion. But yes, many times it's hard to take over other people's work that used to be top-notch but is clearly lacking nowadays (I know it pretty well for always postponing to work on The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker). igordebraga ≠ 21:20, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're known for doing alternative rock articles and a Good Topic (GT) about Pearl Jam's studio albums, and your most recent GA is Lightning Bolt (Pearl Jam album). I wish I can get all articles about the studio albums and singles of industrial bands Nine Inch Nails (except for Year Zero (album), Ghosts I–IV, and The Slip (album)) and Skinny Puppy (except for Mythmaker) up to at least GA standard. IX|(C"<) 22:01, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My first GA is Asteroids (video game) (promoted to GA status on January 11, 2014), and I hope I get to work on turning Breakout (video game), Atari, Inc., and Quake (video game) into FAs. Quake and Breakout are almost 18 and 38 years old, respectively, and there are still people who are interested in editing such articles, but both the Quake and Breakout articles have never been brought up to GA status before. Doom (video game) was promoted to FA with plenty of collabration, and by the time it was demoted, less people were interested in maintaining its quality. PresN is a prominent member of the successful Square Enix WikiProject, and its Final Fantasy featured article was kept after an Featured Article Removal Candidate (FARC) in 2009 thanks to the WikiProject's activity and power. But I've never done maintaining the FA status of an old article through FAR before February 10, 2014. There used to be a group of people interested in the Devil May Cry series, but the task force is now largely inactive. I know both WP:FAR and WP:GAR, and I spend most of my time on Wikipedia improving articles, reading articles, and seeing how things are going. IX|(C"<) 22:01, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Forgive me, but I don't understand the point you're trying to make, Mr. Gonna. Tezero (talk) 23:35, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I'm sort of with you on that Tezero. Kinda have half a mind to close this thread because I just don't think there's anything else to say besides, "Hey. There are FAs that need to be improved. Let's go do that.". GamerPro64 23:54, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for not understanding what I mean, Tezero. Let's make explanations easier:
In the "alternative rock" paragraph, I said to Igordebraga that he is known for writing alternative rock music articles, including ones about Pearl Jam studio albums, and that I wish I can improve articles about songs and albums by Nine Inch Nails and Skinny Puppy.
The "video game" paragraph starts by mentioning Asteroids (video game) as it's my first Good Article (GA), and I said that I will improve three articles to FA status: Breakout (video game), Atari, Inc. and Quake (video game). The second sentence includes the ages of two video games (Quake and Breakout), then it states there are editors interested in improving two Wikipedia articles to GA status (Breakout (video game) and Quake (video game)). The third and fourth sentences describes the FARs of Doom (video game) and Final Fantasy. In the rest of the paragraph I say I never did an FAR before (although I know WP:FAR and WP:GAR already and roamed around Wikipedia improving/reading articles and seeing how the website works), and there's an largely inactive Devil May Cry task force.
GamerPro64 just got right the overall meaning of whatever we discussed in this section. In his words, the meaning is: "Hey. There are FAs that need to be improved. Let's go do that." IX|(C"<) 00:07, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Do you understand what I mean now? IX|(C"<) 00:02, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
But it serves no purpose with the discussion at hand. One could argue that we're going off topic at this point. GamerPro64 00:07, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I started this section because I wanted anyone to improve the Devil May Cry 3 article because it no longer meets the FA criteria, then we talked more about improving old FAs and how things happening within Featured Article Candidates (FACs) and Featured Article Reviews (FARs) changed. We later discussed dealing with featured content and good content, including Red Phoenix's role on the "List of Virtual Boy games" FLRC. That's my summary of this section. IX|(C"<) 00:14, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the "FAR on hold" week is almost over, but lower amounts of response and collaboration than I expected despite my efforts. Instead of working with users on WT:VG about improving the article, I was with the editors there discussing nothing about making it better and everything about improving anything that's not DMC3. The other things I did during the week were just converse with Igordebraga and PresN about the article's poor quality against the FA criteria, and both users could not edit the article at that time. I created a big "ramble" comment about this article that was copy-pasted by me, and still not enough effort because many users aren't interested in dealing with old FAs, especially problematic ones. IX|(C"<) 21:13, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The FAR is no longer on hold. IX|(C"<) 23:50, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Reception seems lacking?

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I remember I once added the score for the original DMC3 in the reception section but it was removed. If we want this article to become a GA again, I think it needs more coverage about how it was received. The reception section is really small when you compare it with the other games from the series. Also, I'm not sure how it works but where should we include the Switch port reception in general? I remember being advised to separate DMC4:SE's content from DMC4 vanilla so I guess it should play like this.Tintor2 (talk) 23:52, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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