Talk:Rice and curry
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[edit]Should this be called 'Cuisine of Sri Lanka'? There is already an article on curry.
- I would think not at this stage - Rice and curry has a specific meaning in Sri Lanka, as described in the article. Perhaps an article with the suggested title could be written drawing together this article, hopper etc. No strong feelings if you want to make the change though, as long as a redirect through Rice and curry remains. jimfbleak
- But the same might be said of other Asian countries - I don't know enough of the cultural sensitivities involved, but my feeling would be to merge this into the existing Cuisine of Sri Lanka article and have this article as some kind of disambiguation to different national cuisines. FlagSteward 12:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
national dish
[edit]"national dish" gives a mistaken impression. We have to be clear here, sure the dish is popular, but to call it a "defacto national dish" is indulging in hyperbole.--Sodabottle (talk) 17:57, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
- Calling it a "national dish" is way over the line. None of the states have even recognized it officially. Arjuncodename024 16:59, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
- POV pushing doesnt help Arjun. Try to keep in line with the others. We dont want politics here. --Wangond (talk) 17:16, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
- Wangond is right here. if we go by the definition our National dish article has, rice and curry can indeed be described as a "national dish". (not that i agree with that definition- it is too ambiguous, but as long as it is still there, rice and curry can be described as one )--Sodabottle (talk) 17:55, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- While rice and curry is eaten across most of India, it is not a 'national dish' because it is not the universal food of choice (not much rice is eaten in northwest India for example). Daal, on the other hand, might just qualify. Also, any dish can't really be a 'national' dish for individual states since they are not nations. (I could add that the meaning of curry is different across India as well but I won't!) --rgpk (comment) 18:07, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with Arjun and rgpk. Since the dish is related to some states, it cannot be called national. Popular dish seems to an appropriate term. —Abhishek Talk to me 18:16, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Two both of you: Read the national dish article. It doesn´t need to mean the whole nation. You are politicising the subject. If there is a national dish in North west, go ahead and give the infos. But don´t disrupt this article. Also, you know, it takes only 4 Indian states to be recognised as a national party of India. Please stop pov pushing. thx.--Wangond (talk) 16:36, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
- Agree with Arjun and rgpk. Since the dish is related to some states, it cannot be called national. Popular dish seems to an appropriate term. —Abhishek Talk to me 18:16, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- While rice and curry is eaten across most of India, it is not a 'national dish' because it is not the universal food of choice (not much rice is eaten in northwest India for example). Daal, on the other hand, might just qualify. Also, any dish can't really be a 'national' dish for individual states since they are not nations. (I could add that the meaning of curry is different across India as well but I won't!) --rgpk (comment) 18:07, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Wangond is right here. if we go by the definition our National dish article has, rice and curry can indeed be described as a "national dish". (not that i agree with that definition- it is too ambiguous, but as long as it is still there, rice and curry can be described as one )--Sodabottle (talk) 17:55, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- [...]it takes only 4 Indian states to be recognised as a national party of India[...] what in the world are you talking about? Rice and curry is not related to any party.... are you related to some party?? your source does not say "Rice and curry is a national dish of AP". please provide proper source that claim it. Looks more like a funny thin to me to say that everyone eats Rice and curry in AP. Looks like you have not been to AP. --Onef9day Talk! 17:09, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
- You may read the national dish article once again: "For the culturally and ethnically diverse nation such as Indonesia, national dish is not just the staple, popular or ubiquitous dish such as Nasi goreng or Gado-gado." We see, national dish has different submeanings. Among them is "staple, popular or ubiquitous", and in the case of South India and Sri Lanka the "staple, popular or ubiquitous" food is rice and curry. I can provide references to this, but it seems obsolete, since it was termed as national food of India. --Wangond (talk) 17:49, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
- do you read any of the comments properly?? I asked a source that claims "Rice and curry is a national dish of AP". Until you get any proper source don't bother to edit articles based your wishes and whims. --Onef9day Talk! 20:14, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
User Wangond (talk) is trying to label "Rice and curry" as National Dishes of few states. Almost non-verifiable claim and violating NPOV policy of Wikipedia. --Onef9day Talk! 20:27, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know to what extent the source with which Wangond claims rice and curry as a national dish can be considered. Even before the issue is resolved, they want to keep reinstating the phrase into the article. If a regional party exists in four states, it is a national party. Why are we talking about politics here? In what way does this apply to rice and curry? And I'm sorry to say it is Wangond who is POV pushing here. An admin intervention to their actions is required. —Abhishek Talk to me 04:05, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Enough
[edit]I started this page back in 2004, and it appears not to have progressed since then. Two main issues
- The final paragraph is pov, stereotyping and unreferenced to independent verifiable sources. If it's not reffed, it should go.
- There is ongoing edit warring about the nation dish thing. Please resolve this, and provide proper references for the agreed text. If you can't agree, leave the claim out
I've protected the page to stop the warring, it's on my watchlist, so any comments here please Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:04, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
"Rice and curry" is a confusing article name
[edit]The name "rice and curry" is pretty generic and therefor confusing. The description doesn't so much describe a specific dish but a way of consuming food as, also per the article, several types of (curry) dishes can be eaten with several types of rice dishes. In Thailand, khao kaeng (literally translated "rice (and) curry") signifies a similar set-up where different dishes (often including Thai curries) are served together with rice on a plate. Traditional Thai fast food restaurants are called ran khao kaeng (ran meaning "eatery"). For more info on the Thai rice and curry culture, read http://shesimmers.com/2017/02/bangkok-rice-curry-shops-ran-khao-kaeng.html. "Rice and curry" could easily also refer to Japanese "curry rice" (read Japanese curry). Perhaps it would be better to rename this article to "Rice and curry (South Asia)" or change the present content of this article into a subsection with new content reflecting rice and curry in other cultures. - Takeaway (talk) 16:32, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
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