Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Backpack rape
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was delete. —Xezbeth 07:13, May 2, 2005 (UTC)
I don't doubt that at some high schools, this interference with another student's possessions for the purpose of harassment is indeed called "backpack rape". But even if the practice itself is widespread, this term for it does not appear to be; it gets 32 unique Google hits, all of which appear to be Wikipedia mirrors or the accidental result of keyword stuffing. Delete. -- Antaeus Feldspar 20:56, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete offensive neologism. LevelCheck 21:13, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Strong Keep Commonly used expression, gaining in currency I'm afraid. Springmourning44 21:50, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, dictionary definition. Not wide-spread. Words are supposed to be in wide use before the article is created. Mgm|(talk) 21:51, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete unless article provides evidence of significant usage. Gamaliel 22:11, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Neologism. android↔talk 22:38, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. We should have a word for the violation of Wikipedia that occurs when crap like this is posted. Postdlf 22:45, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Neologism. RickK 22:55, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. I never heard of the term myself, since usually when people see their stuff being messed around with, the students usually respond with obscentities or "hands off, yo." Plus, rape is (IMHO) a word that should not be used lightly. Zscout370 02:19, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, neologism. As for gaining in popularity, I've never heard of it myself. And I was just thinking what the above wrote, that comparing pranksters' backpack vandalism with forceful sexual violation is rather thoughtless. Master Thief Garrett 02:23, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Well, if it was in widespread use, just the fact of it being a thoughtless and tasteless expression wouldn't be a reason to not report on it. I don't even doubt that it is in use somewhere. But if it was in any sort of widespread use, you'd think there'd be at least one Google hit for it in actual use... -- Antaeus Feldspar 03:36, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- That is why the VfD is here. We have no clue where it is used (which is probably a small area), when it started or anything along those lines. Someone mentioned on other VfD's that when this or other type articles are picked up, many mirrors of Wikipedia pick it up, so this word appears on their severs. And other than those listings, there is nothing else out there. Though me and a few others agree that this is a tasteless term, we cannot include it here since it is a local term used by a term people (which is denoted by the term neologism). Zscout370 03:51, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I think that you'll find that Antaeus agrees with you that the article ought to be deleted, since he nominated it. He was expressing a concern that I share:
youMaster Thief Garrett and LevelCheck objected to this article not only because it is a neologism, but also because it is an offensive neologism. If it weren't a neologism, the fact that it is offensive would not be sufficient reason for its deletion. android↔talk 04:05, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)
- I think that you'll find that Antaeus agrees with you that the article ought to be deleted, since he nominated it. He was expressing a concern that I share:
- That is why the VfD is here. We have no clue where it is used (which is probably a small area), when it started or anything along those lines. Someone mentioned on other VfD's that when this or other type articles are picked up, many mirrors of Wikipedia pick it up, so this word appears on their severs. And other than those listings, there is nothing else out there. Though me and a few others agree that this is a tasteless term, we cannot include it here since it is a local term used by a term people (which is denoted by the term neologism). Zscout370 03:51, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Well, if it was in widespread use, just the fact of it being a thoughtless and tasteless expression wouldn't be a reason to not report on it. I don't even doubt that it is in use somewhere. But if it was in any sort of widespread use, you'd think there'd be at least one Google hit for it in actual use... -- Antaeus Feldspar 03:36, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, neologism. I also IMO find it offensive that the word "rape" has become trivialised to this extent. Megan1967 04:34, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, this is not a neologism in any real sense. It might be a tasteless term some are uncomfortable with but the truth is we use the word rape in very many contexts, which could be said to trivialize. I've heard the expression many times including on television so I doubt it is restricted to any one area or state. Walkingeagles 04:38, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Really? I've never heard it myself, and it's not on any news articles found via Google... but you could be right, maybe it is an emerging term... Master Thief Garrett 04:40, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- User's second edit BrokenSegue 04:42, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- 32 Google hits for a common term among high-schoolers? Right. android↔talk 04:44, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. This is not a sufficiently notable practice, and even if it were, it likely would be impossible to name the article definitively. As a recent American high school graduate, I can attest that this phenomenon has many names, most of them probably very localized. In my high school, this practice was referred to by the verb "to nugget", and I suspect that many Wikipedians currently in high school could provide other terms for it.NatusRoma 05:11, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- By that definition, this could well be merged with "List of slang for backpack vandalism", LOL! Master Thief Garrett 05:41, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- When I was in school, we had no terms for it. Plus, this was never done! The anything that comes close to that is staff bookbag search/petty theft by the students. Zscout370 15:09, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Where I live this is referred to as "flapjacking." Neutralitytalk 00:50, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete — offensive neologism. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:40, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Neologism. --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 04:32, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete as a non-notable neologism. — JIP | Talk 05:06, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete Not-notable neologism. (It's also offensive, but that it is not a reason to delete) Dsmdgold 15:17, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: non-notable neologism, no real evidence presented of actual use. Jonathunder 09:00, 2005 Apr 28 (UTC)
- delete this right away Yuckfoo 16:28, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. HS neologicruft. -- 8^D gab 19:41, 2005 Apr 28 (UTC)
- Keep: I've heard the term used, although not many times. I think it has potential. YPK 11:54, 2005 Apr 29 (UTC) This unsigned vote is actually by 203.112.80.138 (talk · contribs), who has 15 edits. (YPK here, didn't have an account before. How do you sign a vote?)
- Use four tildes (~~~~) to sign both your name and date. You can use just three to sign your name alone, but it's preferable to have the date on a Vfd vote to see the chronological flow. Anyway, please enjoy your time with us! Master Thief Garrett 07:31, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, seems noteworthy and rather informative. i have been a backpack rape victim before. 68.190.40.38 01:50, 1 May 2005 (UTC) This is the first of 68.190.40.38 (talk · contribs)'s three edits, all to VFDs.[reply]
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