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Does anyone else notice that Henderson uses hip hop elements as reason to distance Breaking Benjamin from alternative metal, but that it also isn't really a hallmark of alt metal by itself? I think Allmusic is being lazy here and grouping nu metal, a subgenre of alt metal, in collectively as alternative metal, which isn't fair at all. We could do better by using existing sources in alternative metal or nu metal to help us note the discrepancy within the note. mftp danoops04:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]