Talk:Mardi Gras Indians

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Don't you think that there is too many pictures here and that make the load of the page longer to show ? --Chmouel Boudjnah 23:53, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hm. Perhaps I should move some of the pix to a seperate page, or have them as links rather than inlined? What do others think? -- Infrogmation 00:00, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I changed it a bit. What do you think? Dori | Talk 00:04, Feb 15, 2004 (UTC)

Okay by me EXCEPT for that I would much like the front and back photos of the Wildman costume to appear next to each other. -- Infrogmation 00:24, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

All right... How's it look now? -- Infrogmation 00:28, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I think the solution of moving the pictures to an other page would be the best. 2 pictures should be enough for small article the other can be moved to a new page ? -- Chmouel Boudjnah 01:25, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Following Dori's suggestion, most of the pix are smaller thumbnails now. Does thant not load faster for you? Other opinions? I know that's more illustrations than are usual in an article this size, but it being a fairly visual tradition I thought it appropriate. If other folks think I should take out some of the photos, I will. Also, of course, if someone else has better Mardi Gras Indian photos than mine they'd like to share, those would be welcome too. -- Infrogmation 04:43, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the gallery to relink the thumbs, the layout looks much better —I have added the front of the "Wildman" costume to it, so it's back with its partner. Have improved the layout further by adding section headings to the text. redcountess 21:21, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

Most of the pix now moved to Wikimedia Commons. -- Infrogmation 02:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Add tribe name Choctaw Hunters to the list Please. Est. 1990 9thWardMike (talk) 17:44, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Shouldn't there be a section devoted to the musical aspects of the Mardi Gras Indians?

Over the years, a number of recordings of various Mardi Gras Indian tribes (recorded both in the streets of New Orleans as well as studio recordings) have been made widely available. while i am familiar enough with some of the releases to begin a list of recordings, i think that a more musicological slash ethnomusicological approach to the subject (or at least as an introduction to a list of recordings) should be part of this article, as music is as much a part of the Mardi Gras Indian tribes as are their costumes.

Here is a brief list of recordings with which i would begin -- as far as i am aware, with the exception of the first Wild Magnolias recording, Handa Wanda, which is important to list because it is the first commercially recorded documentation of a Mardi Gras Indian tribe -- all of the following are still in print:

• The Wild Magnolias: Handa Wanda (1970)
• The Wild Tchoupitoulas: The Wild Tchoupitoulas (Island Records, 1976/re-released on Mango, 1991)
• The Golden Eagles: Lightning & Thunder: Recorded Live at the H&R Bar in New Orleans (Rounder Records, 1988)
• Bo Dollis and The Wild Magnolias: I'm Back at Carnival Time (Rounder Records, 1990)
• Mardi Gras Indians Super Sunday Showdown! (featuring the Wild Magnolias and the Golden Eagles with guest appearances by the Rebirth Brass Band on 2 tracks) (Rounder Records, 1992)
• Bo Dollis featuring The Wild Magnolias (with guest appearances by Monk Boudreaux and Doctor John): 1313 Hoodoo Street (also released as World Wide Hoodoo) (Aim Records, 1996)
• Bo Dollis and The Wild Magnolias: Thirty Years and Still Wild (Aim Records, 2002)
• Big Chief Monk Boudreaux and the Golden Eagles: Mr. Stranger Man (Shanachie Records, 2003)

While i am not aware of any commercially released recordings by any of the other 38-odd tribes, including: The Black Eagles, The Golden Star Hunters, Creole Wild West, and The Creole Osceolas, to name but a few, i am sure that there are compilations and "field-recordings" of the Folkways type, as well as locally-produced and distrubuted recordings not widely available outside of New orleans (except, one hopes, over the web).

Isn't there also a need for entries on such major figures as Bo Dollis (leader of the Wild Magnolias) and Monk Boudreaux (leader of the Golden Eagles)?

oedipus 17:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

The Wild Tchoupitoulas

That article needs attention, I left some hopefully useful information on the talk page. Regards, BNutzer 12:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

List of Tribes of the Mardi Gras Indian Nation

While i am not sure if this is a definitive list of the currently active Mardi Gras Indian tribes, it is a pretty definitive listing from a pretty definitive and reputable site, Mardi Gras Digest. Alternately, one could always add an external link to the Tribes of the Mardi Gras Indian Nation page slash sub-site at Mardi Gras Digest, and for now (Mardi Gras, 2006), that is what i think i will do. For the record, here is the list of tribes i have been able to compile so far:

• 7th Ward Hard Headers
• 7th Ward Hunters
• 9th Ward Hunters
• Black Eagles
• Black Hawk Hunters
• Black Feathers
• Black Seminoles
• Blackfoot Hunters
• Carrollton Hunters
• Cheyenne Hunters
• Comanche Hunters
• Congo Nation
• Creole Osceola
• Creole Wild West
• Fi-Yi-Yi
• Flaming Arrows
• Geronimo Hunters
• Golden Arrows
• Golden Blades
• Golden Comanche
• Golden Eagles
• Golden Star Hunters
• Guardians of Flames
• Mohawk Hunters
• Morning Star Hunters
• Red Hawk Hunters
• Seminole Hunters
• Seminole
• Skull & Bones
• White Cloud Hunters
• White Eagles
• Wild Apache
• Wild Bogacheeta
• Wild Tchoupitoulas
• Wild Magnolias
• Yellow Pocahontas
• Young Navaho
• Young Brave Hunters
• Young Monogram Hunters
• Young Cheyenne

oedipus 18:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

created List of the Tribes of the Mardi Gras Indian Nation

oedipus 19:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

This list article is being deleted. I've merged the content back to this page. SMSpivey (talk) 04:15, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

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Group 6 in the Mardi Gras in New Orleans template

I just now edited the {{Template:Mardi Gras in New Orleans}}, where Group 6 had been written as Indian Tribes, so it now reads Mardi Gras Indians with an internal link to that page. I didn't check if this is the proper nomenclature, just relied on the editors of this page to have settled the matter at the time the page name was established. -- Deborahjay (talk) 14:59, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

cultural appropriation

This fits the very definition of cultural appropriation. It's no surprise that someone actively engaged in the ongoing colonization would remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.86.50.153 (talk) 20:48, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Mardi Gras Indian IS NOT the correct nomenclature!

I have recently attempted to correct this mistake and I was told it had no significance to the information. -BLACK MASKING INDIANS or MASKING INDIANS- As I am Currently working with the Black Indians in New Orleans it should be known that they do not wish to be referred to as "Mardi Gras Indians". These indigenous people celebrate carnival which was appropriated by other groups calling it "Mardi Gras". If we are working to get the correct information to those that are seeking it, I implore you to please correct this showing of appropriation on indigenous people in this country. I find it interesting that much of the information that is in the article actually proves the point that they and I are making. Thank you --The1tibbs (talk) 23:45, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Black Masked Indians

I do not understand how this is ok. They became buffalo Soldiers to kill my Ansestors of this land. Then proceed to mock the culture of the local Indigenous peoples. Even going as far as taking the names of Indigenous Tribes and putting "hunter" after the name. I would like to know more on this topic. And see what other Indigenous relatives think of this. 209.16.135.50 (talk) 01:21, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

"Krewe" vs "Tribe"

In a recent edit to this article, @Yuchitown converted many instances of the word "tribe" to "krewe". A krewe is a group participating in Mardi Gras or other related Carnival festivals, typically parading. While Mardi Gras Indians often have Mardi Gras krewes, their organizations are not simply krewes, and are known as "tribes", as the Mardi Gras Indians article clearly notes. These edits should be reverted to the more precisely accurate "krewe". DocRuby (talk) 02:34, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

That's why the article says, Participants call their krewes "tribes", with citations. This statement appears contradictory to what you're trying to say, These edits should be reverted to the more precisely accurate "krewe". Make edits, use citations. Yuchitown (talk) 03:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

It's not contradictory, any group participating in Mardi Gras can call their group a "krewe", so the tribes participating call theirs krewes too. But the tribes do more than participate in Mardi Gras, and are called tribes.

Yes, I did erroneously say 'reverted to the more precisely accurate "krewe"', when I should have said 'more precisely accurate "tribe"', since I'm recommending your edits from "tribe" to "krewe" be reverted to "tribe".

I don't know what you mean by "make edits, use citations". DocRuby (talk) 03:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Suits Influences

In a recent edit to this article, @Yuchitown changed "suits influenced by Native American ceremonial apparel" to "suits influenced by stereotypes of Native American dance regalia". In fact the suits were influenced by Native American ceremonial apparel, and with a long history of association of Native Americans since the early days of contact with people coming with colonization (African, European and others) the influences were not only stereotypes but actual apparel. It wasn't only stereotypes that influenced the culture's apparel. If an editor can include citations to convincingly reduce that influence to stereotypes that would be a useful contribution to the article. If not then this edit should be removed until it is supported by such citations. DocRuby (talk) 02:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Hoodoowoman changed that (and uses citations in their edits), so it doesn't currently say "suits influenced by stereotypes of Native American dance regalia". Yuchitown (talk) 03:37, 23 September 2024 (UTC)