User talk:Sesel/First Archive

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Question

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Although it seems you will never again view this site: Can you answer my following question:

On 30 Nov 2003, 19:13, you wrote in Politics of Nauru:

"The President's official residence is State House; however, the building was recently burned down during riots over the government's policy with respect to asylum seekers."

Do you can give me a source for this information? I looked for any, but found nothing. Thanks a lot. -- CdaMVvWgS 21:29, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Again: you can answer my question? -- CdaMVvWgS 20:13, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I went back to try to find the information myself, and it seems that I misinterpreted something I read (At the time I thought State House was a building, and it is, but the fire occurred at the camp [called State House camp] adjacent to the old State House). I removed the information that I placed in Politics of Nauru. --Sesel 00:08, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Fidel Castro

Hi!

I hope you could find some better title for Fidel Castro than leader?
--Ruhrjung 01:35, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

President Castro has ruled since 1959 and has held the titles of prime minister, President of the Council of State and President of the Council of Ministers, all in executive capacity. This would be difficult to explain in a short list.
--Sesel 02:32, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Moktar Ould Daddah

Hi Sesel! I see you uploaded the info. that Moktar Ould Daddah, the former president of Mauritania, is related to Charles de Gaulle. Have you a source for this? I'm not being skeptical, I just want a fairly reputable source. Also, if we could know the exact nature of the relationship (e.g. son-in-law, brother-in-law, etc) that would be helpful. Thanks!Davidcannon 11:55, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Surya Bahadur Thapa

Surely the onus is on you to show why Surya Bahadur Thapa is not the caretaker prime minister. john 22:50, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

(comment subsequently deleted)

You deleted my message and then reverted again? What kind of bullshit is that? As I said, the onus lies on you to demonstrate that the resigning prime minister is not acting as caretaker until a new PM is appointed. "Not necessarily" isn't good enough. john 22:55, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

(comment subsequently deleted)

Why do you keep deleting my comments on your talk page? I'm not being insulting or abusive. john 07:15, 8 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

(Sesel replied, "I would say that using the word 'bullshit' is abusive" and subsequently deleted the comment.)

I was completely polite the first time around, and you deleted my comment. After that, I said that your behavior was bullshit. You then deleted that comment. My third comment was also not abusive, and you just deleted it. Deleting stuff from your talk page, especially stuff which is not in any way insulting, is pretty bad form. I will apologize for using the word "bullshit" but not for the sentiment behind my use of the word - you deleted my first comment for no reason except that you didn't like what I was saying. john 16:14, 8 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

I have just read that Mr Thapa will stay in the government until consultations are completed with the King, but this is very unusual for Nepal. The government has been modified since the massacre because of chronic instability. --Sesel 17:47, 8 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't it have been better if, instead of reverting and deleting comments of those trying to communicate with you, you'd just said that usually in Nepal there is a vacancy between a resignation and a new appointment (assuming that is the case)? Then we could have tried to figure out the facts of the matter and had a civil discussion, instead of all this nonsense. Thank you for restoring the comments. john

Note: The reason for my rejection of this discussion came from the fact that I expected a new prime minister to be appointed within a shorter period of time. This did not happen, because a new PM was appointed after about a week. --Sesel 02:53, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

List of terrorist groups

Hi, you have put the Janjaweed under Islamists on list of terrorist groups, I used this list to make Category:Islamist groups. User:High on a tree later left a message on my talk page which I thought I'd forward to you since you were the one who originally added it to the list. "While most people seem to agree that the Sudanese government (which supports them) can be called islamist, I haven't been able to google more than one reference which labels the Janjaweed islamists, rather than, say, more secular Arab nationalists. You seem to have more information about the group's ideology, why not add it to the article? For now I have removed the category." Fuelbottle | Talk 01:38, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The Janjaweed have little in the way of an ideology, and their aims are not very clear. The Government of Sudan is clearly Islamist; however, President Bashir has sacked and persecuted Islamist clerics from his Government if they do not suit his needs politically, and Sudan also sponsors the Christian fundamentalist Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda. The Janjaweed, on the other hand, are following a scorched-earth policy that has little to do with religion (although they are Muslims) or nationalism. According to Human Rights Watch, the militia have "destroyed mosques, killed Muslim religious leaders, and desecrated Qorans belonging to their enemies." These facts make them very hard to classify, because there is seemingly little "ideology" other than genocide. Perhaps others on Wikipedia have an opinion on this, because I can't reach one conclusively. --Sesel 19:15, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I moved the discussion to Talk:Janjaweed -- Fuelbottle | Talk 01:26, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Qaboos of Oman

Why would you object to that paragraph. I wrote the other page and I hold the copy right. If I wish to share why would you object. This site is far too unfriendly for me to contribute any more.

If you are the holder of the copyright, than it is okay. I was unable to tell if the material was copyrighted or not, and ordinarily material can not be posted from other sites unless there is notice explicitly stating so. I apologize if I misunderstood your circumstances. --Sesel 14:44, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Sytemic bias

Given your interests, you may wish to join and contribute to this project: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias --- Xed 13:43, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Indentured servants/indentured labourers

Curious about the change in the History of Trinidad and Tobago article. Is there some reason to go with the latter? I may be wrong, but in my experience the former term was used for (mainly) white transportees in the early W. Indian and American colonies. I have never heard the Indians exported to the Caribbean, S. Africa, Fiji, Mauritius, called "servants", but rather "labourers". The distinction may be slim, but that is the historical usage as I know it. "Servant" also has a somewhat different shade of meaning - domestic, rather than field. Just curious about the rationale behind the change of usage. Guettarda 20:07, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I changed the wording because there is an article on indentured servitude. I didn't intend to make any substantial distinction. You can certainly change it if you feel "labourer" is more accurate. --Sesel 20:10, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ok, thanks - I will try to find some analysis on the distinction. I wasn't sure if you madet he change for consistency or because you had specific knowledge of the matter Guettarda 21:11, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Translation

Article: nl:Norodom Chakrapong

Corresponding English-language article: none

Worth doing because:

- Little information is available on the Cambodian royal family in English.
Originally Requested by: Sesel 01:59, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Status: completed by -- Sietse 17:18, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Other notes: none

Thank you for your translation. --Sesel 17:27, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

contributions

Hello, I've been looking over your contributions. I used to contribute here more, except I got into too many arguments with right-wing bozos. I went looking for an alternative, and I found some.

InfoshopOpenWiki ( http://www.infoshop.org/wiki ) is one. I've been contributing to it. It's uptime hasn't been great recently though.

Anarchopedia ( http://www.anarchopedia.org ) is another one. The sysadmin had some weird ideas about how languages would be dealt with, but supposedly tomorrow it will go back to normal (e.g. like Wikipedia)

I've been transferring stuff from Marxists.org's encyclopedia to InfoshopOpenWiki, and have been transferring some of 172's articles here as well. Usually I go into the history and try to find what he wrote, It's unfortunate that he works on it, idiots come and edit it, and then he does it more. Perhaps on other wiki's people will try to make the article better than worse.

Anyhow, if you have any articles from here you think are good, point them out to me, or transfer them to InfoshopOpenWiki yourself (or Anarchopedia when he fixes language, supposedly tomorrow).

In the future perhaps there will be a user-run, user-funded wiki for and by the working class and whatnot. InfoshopOpenWiki, Anarchopedia and so forth are it, or at least precursors of it. At least everything is GFDL. I've given up on Wikipedia, although I come in and edit stuff once in a while. Pierre Lachamp 08:47, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Plea

After searching, and asking on the reference desk, I found the information I was looking for on the Populist Democratic Viking Party, only to find that you have listed it for deletion. I found it before it disapeared, and would like to ask you to reconsider your desire to delete this. Thank you, Mark Richards 01:43, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I will not reconsider. I don't think you're being very truthful, as the "Populist Democratic Viking Party" results in eight Google hits, all of which are outdated lists of political parties. Shall we include every candidate on Vote-Smart? Then there should be an article for "HRM Caesar St Augustine De Buonaparte Emperor" of "The Good Party", Jackson Kirk Grimes of the "United Fascist Union." Furthermore, issue positions of this candidate on the NPAT include:

On abortion: "the root of the problem, the Illuminitti, a.k.a. mob, mafia, CFR"
On budgets: "the A.K.A. Illuminatti UR "Fed" Reserve, IRS avoid it"
On crime: "The Illuminati - is the Source the Rest is the systoms -"

The word "Illuminati" is used in every comment field, and none of the questions are actually answered. If this kind of gibberish is allowed on Wikipedia, I will declare myself Pope of Lesotho and write an article about myself. --Sesel 04:31, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Dear Sesel, I don't know what grounds you have for thinking that I am not being truthful, I am not interested in the number of google hits something gets. This candidate stood for office, it is verifiable, neutrally written and factual. I was interested enough to try to look it up, others were interested enough to write and edit it. Please reconsider - after all, you never have to read it if you are not interested in it. Mark Richards 13:36, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

And you amazingly happen to "look up" this candidate right when the page became up for deletion. Excellent timing. --Sesel 19:47, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I fail to see why this is in any way unlikely, but since you are insistant on assuming bad faith there is no point in being rational with you. Mark Richards 20:55, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
Multi-Licensing Guide
Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Quoth: All of my contributions are fully in the public domain. I do not reserve any rights

Can you place "{{MultiLicensePD}}" somewhere on your user page or User:Sesel/Copyrights so that we have a permanent record of your choice? Thanks! – Ram-Man ^{(comment) (talk)}[[]] 13:41, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)

List of assassinated persons

Please see Talk:List of assassinated persons where I query the inclusion of Paul Wellstone. Dbiv 16:04, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

List of Disneyworlds in Andorra

Wikipedia:Don't disrupt Wikipedia to prove a point. At least, I think you're trying to make some kind of point.

Do you object to the speedy deletion of this page? -- Curps 01:52, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

No, I don't. In fact, as I write this it has already been deleted. --Sesel 03:53, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

List of political epithets

Thanks for stepping in there - I hesitate to go there simply because the page has such a strong right-wing slant that I think NPOVing the page would take too much work, and I would probably just switch it from a right-wing POV to an anti-rightwing POV. So thanks for taking it a step in the right direction. Guettarda 17:17, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Father of the Nation

Hi there! I see you've removed a huge number of entries from the Father of the Nation list. Is there any reason for doing so? Just curious ... David Cannon 05:00, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

There was discussion on the FOTN talk page after a POV dispute was raised. A user questioned whether "third-world dictators" should be allowed to claim the title, among other things. It was suggested that I shorten the list to people who are essentially universally admired in their countries and have been out of office long enough for historians to thoroughly evaluate them. --Sesel 18:27, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Our friend User:155.84.57.253

Hi Sesel, care to contribute to Heather Has Two Mommies? It seems out friend wants to spread his POV. —Christiaan 00:12, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

LOL! I put it on my watchlist. At least handling this won't be as complex as the epithet page. Has anyone lodged an official complaint about this IP's behavior? --Sesel 00:18, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ah, he's good a laugh. :) —Christiaan 00:21, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Please see my note on User talk:Christiaan. This user is perhaps more than simply annoying. -Willmcw 01:41, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)

Adminship

I'd like to nominate you for adminship. You interested? Guettarda 17:26, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sure! Thank you for the offer. ?Sesel wa 18:10, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Nomination's in at Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship#Sesel. Please go and indicate your acceptance, if you would. Thanks. Guettarda 21:42, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

D'Aubuisson

What 1 person? 2 are in favour, none against according to the talk page. If you want to say something say it on the talk page, --SqueakBox 21:51, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

Left wing parties

I really like and find User:Sesel/Left-wing parties very useful in my work here. Shame it can't be at Left-wing parties. --SqueakBox 18:07, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. ?Sesel wa 19:31, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Why not place a copy of it at List of Left-wing parties? Guettarda 19:48, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Since I use a very generous definition of "left," it would probably be considered POV because that characterization is not specific enough to effectively categorize it. I loosely modeled the idea on User:Wilfried Derksen/Political parties and liberalism without the editorial comments. ?Sesel wa 01:42, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You have a point there - I wouldn't readily call the People's National Movement left-wing - but the division in Caribbean politics has rarely been between left and right (according to Kirk Meighoo it has been urban-rural - civil servant on one side, against an alliance of agricultural labour and plantation owner on the other). You could, of course, always specify that it was a list of "left-wing and left-leaning parties, broadly construed". I wonder who would edit-war about the definition of "left-wing". It would probably be between centrists who like to consider themselves left-leaning (like me), true socialists/marxists, and the anarchists. But then, of course, there are the neo-nazis who say that the Nazi party was socialist (I don't understand the rational, and I can't bring myself to spend more than a few minutes on their bulletin boards). Guettarda 16:51, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi. You might like to check the following United Kingdom parties out for inclusion in your list:

Alliance for Green Socialism, Alliance for Workers' Liberty, Communist Party of Britain, Communist Party of Britain (Marxist-Leninist), Cymru Annibynnol, Forward Wales / Cymru Ymlaen, Independent Working Class Association, International Socialist Group, New Communist Party of Britain, Revolutionary Communist Group, Socialist Labour Party, Socialist Party, Socialist Party of Great Britain, Socialist Workers Party— the last mentioned now being part of the Respect coalition.

The following organizations mentioned in you list have been wound up: Communist Party of Great Britain (-1991), Socialist Alliance (-2005), Scottish Republican Socialist Party (-1998) (the latter is now a "platform" within the Scottish Socialist Party).

Note, too, that the Isle of Man not being part of the United Kingdom, Mec Vannin is not a UK party. -- Picapica 10:52, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

adminship

Congratulations

Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. Please be especially careful about blocking logged-in users because of the ill will that can result when that is done without careful consideration. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful.

The Uninvited Co., Inc. 21:58, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nice one Sesel. ?Christiaan 21:59, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations. Guettarda 22:09, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Dear sir,

Would you please give a GOOD reason for reverting my edits?

See Talk:Dictator. ?Sesel wa 18:35, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Chamaeleon up for adminship

Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Chamaeleon#User:Chamaeleon.7CChamaeleon

Thank you for your support. Helpful Dave 14:06, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Please reconsider

I'd like you to reconsider your vote on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anti-globalization and Anti-Semitism. Nobody wants to censor the topic, but there is no need for it to be in a separate article, and it should be summarised rather than bulked out with quotes. Chamaeleon 09:39, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)