Talk:Starrcade

Starrcade (2017) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 25 September 2017 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Starrcade. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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Merger proposal

I propose to merge Starrcade (2018) into Starrcade. Just like the 2017 event, the 2018 event was no different with the one exception that some of it aired on the WWE Network as a one-hour special. Despite that one difference, the article can be summed up here in a paragraph just how the 2017 event was. --JDC808 ♫ 10:21, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree: The event was aired on the WWE Network as a special event, it has a good amount of coverage (almost 30 sources) and is a fairly length page. There is no need to merge when this page is just fine. MarioFan78 (talk) 18:31, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: And I quote: "Just like the 2017 event, the 2018 event was no different with the one exception that some of it aired on the WWE Network as a one-hour special." Just because a portion of it (not even the whole event) aired on the Network doesn't mean it automatically gets a dedicated Wikipedia article. In terms of coverage, nearly half of those sources are for the storylines which weren't even really for this event; they were for TLC, as sourced there (the sources for the storylines were actually pulled from the TLC article). Some of the sources are already used on this article. There's only about 10 sources for the 2018 event article (some of which are primary) that are actually useful and could be retained in a merger. --JDC808 ♫ 20:01, 18 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I still disagree MarioFan78 (talk) 18:11, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain. Refute why the points I made are wrong. --JDC808 ♫ 11:07, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose This particular event received a lot of coverage as it was the first event of its kind. Keep in mind sources need to exist, not that they have to be used in the article - Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 18:16, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: A lot of coverage? Really? I haven't seen much beyond what's already sourced, which actually isn't much (and what I have seen are from sources the project currently considers unreliable). And first of its kind? In what way? --JDC808 ♫ 11:07, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The taped to air house shows. There are plenty of RS out there discussing this topic in depth - Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 13:57, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's barely anything special. And how in depth can they actually get on this show? Please amuse me, because I'm honestly curious on how in depth they can get for a one-hour, non-canon show that meant barely anything in the grand scheme of things WWE (other than possibly increased Network subscriptions and maybe more tickets sold). Now if there was reputable facts that this event did in fact increase those and actually did something for the company, than I could see the necessity for this article, but in its current state, regardless of how many RS's there are, it's just unnecessary (honestly, my biggest gripe is the storylines section, which you haven't followed up to my last response there on). --JDC808 ♫ 14:53, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a link to Google News that will show everything prior to the date of the event [1]. Also I was offline for most of 2+ weeks due to traveling, so I am very behind in everything on wikipedia, so I probably haven't seen whatever commend you are referring to. - Galatz גאליץ ^{שיחה Talk} 16:23, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Most of those articles are saying the same things and add little to nothing in their own respective coverage. --JDC808 ♫ 07:44, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: Per the same reasons mentioned above Goku4Star^Talk 19:02, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]