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NASA gives the pronunciation as [AL-bee-or-icks]. Since pre-antepenultimate accents do not occur in English, they probably intended [AL-bee-OR-icks].

Confirmed the pronunciation with the École druidique d'Helvétie in St-Aubin:
Albio était accentué, sans qu'aucun doute soit possible, sur le i (bref). Le i de rix était long comme le e du rex latin. Il reste long au génitif rigos, mais devient bref et accentué dans l'irlandais rige (royauté) et rigain (reine).
En composition, albio-rix, l'accent doit s'être logiquement placé sur la pénultième.
[Albio was stressed, without any possible doubt, on the (short) i. The i of rix was long like the e of Latin rex. It stays long in the genitive rigos, but becomes short and stressed in the Irish rige (royalty) and rigain (queen).
[As a compound, albio-rix, the stress must logically fall on the penultimate.]
—kwami 01:51, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Someone changed the pronunciation no IPA: [ælˈbaɪ.ə.ɹɪks], but w/o any ref, so I'm changing it back. kwami 14:46, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 11 January 2023

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. The support !votes are largely at odds with WP:PRIMARYRED (and moot), while the usage arguments made by the opposers haven't really been rebutted. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:30, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

– An attempted WP:PROD at the base-title disambiaguation page was thwarted by the addition of a redlinked genus, but this moon is still the obvious primary topic over two others that don't have standalone articles. The dab page would then be moved to Albiorix (disambiguation). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:06, 11 January 2023 (UTC) —Added move of dab. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:51, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:18, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Nrco0e (talk) 23:45, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • As mentioned before in the deprod edit summary that you seem to have missed, https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Albiorix says more people click on the first meaning than the other, so this is not an obvious primary topic. Just because a topic has no standalone article that doesn't mean that we should short-circuit navigation to one that happens to have it but is not more commonly sought. If you want to show that the moon has more long-term significance, you should present an actual rationale for it and not just say "it's still obvious", because it's not. Oppose --Joy (talk) 08:41, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, since this is the only meaning that has an article. Double sharp (talk) 10:48, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, the moon is the only entry with an article of its own. It can always be moved back if the Celtic god or the arachnid ever get an article. JIP | Talk 12:04, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as an article for Albiorix (Gaulish deity) now exists. --FULBERT (talk) 12:24, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Much of what the supports say is irrelevant: 1) as the very first sentences of WP:DAB make clear, dab pages disambiguate encyclopedic topics that are covered on Wikipedia, it's not necessary for this coverage to be at the level of entire articles; 2) the main contending topic here is Albiorix as an epithet of the deity Mars, but as often happens with such epithets, they're not so much subtopics of the deity as synonyms for it; 3) as noted by FULBERT, the whole issue is now moot. As for the actual question at hand (whether the moon is the primary topic), Joy's data conclusively shows that it is not, at least with respect to usage (and no-one has made an argument about long-term significance: the moon, discovered just 23 years ago, is one among several dozen small rocks orbiting Saturn, and its size is smaller than 30 km). – Uanfala (talk) 10:55, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

followup to move discussion

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Cf. Talk:Albiorix#followup to move discussion. --Joy (talk) 21:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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