Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Angelo Dante
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was delete. -- AllyUnion (talk) 03:50, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
vanity Uncle G 03:45, 2005 Jan 30 (UTC)
- Delete Gazpacho 03:59, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Delete --fvw* 04:47, 2005 Jan 30 (UTC)
- Delete, not notable, vanity. Megan1967 01:16, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Vanity? You do realize that this is a fictional character, right? Redirect to Robotech or Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross. Gamaliel 01:20, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- It's masquerading as fact. That, of course, is another reason to delete it. Uncle G 02:02, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)
- A vanity page does not necessarily have to be written by its subject, whether real or fictional. Megan1967 23:54, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- This article is useless junk either way, but I don't understand how an article about a fictional television character can be a vanity article. Gamaliel 08:32, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- See the example at Wikipedia:vanity page and the explanation below it. Uncle G 18:29, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC)
- Sorry, still don't see how this is vanity. Gamaliel 19:54, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- See the example at Wikipedia:vanity page and the explanation below it. Uncle G 18:29, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC)
- This article is useless junk either way, but I don't understand how an article about a fictional television character can be a vanity article. Gamaliel 08:32, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- A vanity page does not necessarily have to be written by its subject, whether real or fictional. Megan1967 23:54, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- It's masquerading as fact. That, of course, is another reason to delete it. Uncle G 02:02, 2005 Jan 31 (UTC)
- Merge/redirect per Gamaliel. It's not masquerading as fact, it's assuming that people found it legitimately by searching or clicking on links, not with "random page" or "new pages" or whatever. Kappa 09:35, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- No, it is masquerading as fact. Where people came to it from is irrelevant. The article boldly states that "Sgt. Angelo Dante [is the] oldest member of the 15th Alpha Tactical Armored Corp.", "Dana Sterling puts everything on the line", and "Dante keeps a cool head and does not take unnecessary risks.". All of these things are presented as facts, but are not facts. There is no Sergeant Angelo Dante (or at least no notable one). There is no "15th Alpha Tactical Armored Corp". There is no (notable) Dana Sterling. And the behaviours of these non-existent people are themselves non-existent, too. Every single sentence in this article is false. Yet it is presented as a factual article. Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Check_your_fiction is very clear about this sort of thing. We usually call such articles, that are entirely full of made up stuff that is false, "hoaxes". Uncle G 18:29, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC)
- Fictional and false are not synonyms. These things do exist, within a fictional construct seen by millions of viewers. This is not the same thing as a hoax, which is just a bunch of crap made up by some random newbie and maybe his friends too. Frankly these semantic games seem to be justifying an initial mistaken first impression. It's just silly because no one is disputing this is a bad article which needs to be disposed of in some manner, but we shouldn't throw around terms like "vanity" and "hoax" which clearly do not apply. The fact that it sucks should be enough. Gamaliel 19:54, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- No, it is masquerading as fact. Where people came to it from is irrelevant. The article boldly states that "Sgt. Angelo Dante [is the] oldest member of the 15th Alpha Tactical Armored Corp.", "Dana Sterling puts everything on the line", and "Dante keeps a cool head and does not take unnecessary risks.". All of these things are presented as facts, but are not facts. There is no Sergeant Angelo Dante (or at least no notable one). There is no "15th Alpha Tactical Armored Corp". There is no (notable) Dana Sterling. And the behaviours of these non-existent people are themselves non-existent, too. Every single sentence in this article is false. Yet it is presented as a factual article. Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Check_your_fiction is very clear about this sort of thing. We usually call such articles, that are entirely full of made up stuff that is false, "hoaxes". Uncle G 18:29, 2005 Feb 9 (UTC)
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