User talk:Burgundavia/archive3

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VfD

What "procedure" are you talking about? If you mean creating the MediaWiki page, I have never done that and never will. RickK 13:59, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

The process is entirely too cumbersome and complicated. RickK 22:51, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

I say we keep pferdestärke on VfD as we've already got the English equivalent Horsepower and there's already a German de:Pferdestärke. It's the author's fault and we shouln't let it waste our time.--[[User:HamYoyo|HamYoyo (Talk)]] 09:10, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I speek some German, but I don't know physics terminology! Maybe I'll give it a shot.--[[User:HamYoyo|HamYoyo (Talk)]] 09:21, Jun 2, 2004 (UTC)

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NEW MESSAGE:

Thank you for your efforts and reply. No problem with your formatting advise, etc., and copyright questions, I admit I had uploaded one item discovered by THUE as a breach, this was a legitimate error and was immediately rectified. (please delete it). I appreciate such astute observations and critisism, which have compelled me to read several Wikipedia help pages, still trying to get a feel for it. Must be a nightmare tring to police such a bold project. Keep in touch.

Cheers, again and all the best: Faedra 09:06, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

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Naval Air Station Whidbey Island

If you take a closer look at it, I did not revert your changes. I altered things again to a third format which is a compromise between the abbreviation NAS and the expanded Naval Air Station. It may sound picky but the correct way of naming a naval air station is to put the naval air station part before its name. It's the same with RAF bases which are always RAF Base never Base RAF. By way of contrast, if dealing with a USAF AFB the correct way is to put AFB after the name. David Newton 07:59, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Snooker

Thanks for your kind comments on my user page. --Auximines 08:54, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

re: mashimaro

hey, I've even put up a more meaningful article which links it now.

More snooker

Yup, still going! I've done world rankings for every year, almost all the tournaments, and almost all the players, so hopefully the bulk of the work will draw to a close soon. --Auximines 09:36, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Queen Mum

the .bmp is fair use as part of the article I'm writing - rather than just leave the "List of Coats of Arms" just a list of images. Mark is a fellow society member, I have asked him for a better, smaller version to use. --garryq 12:23, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Template conversion

Thanks! --Nevilley 10:15, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

RfA

Sorry for the delay in replying to your question. One thing that I do as well as spot checking a user's edits is to click "what links here" on their user page. This will give you a list of pages where they have signed their name. As sysops have the tasks of deleting pages, and dealing with vandals, I often expect to see that they have contributed to VfD or vandalism in progress. If you follow those pages, you may well have seen their name in those places already, but if not, the fact those pages are on the "what links here" list can be a good sign that the user is interested in the areas that sysops have most of their abilities. I also check some of the talk pages linked to from the list to see if they have been involved in any conflicts, and if so, how they have dealt with that. The sorts of questions a user is asking or answering on the village pump, or on Wikipedia talk pages can also give you a good idea of how well they understand various aspects of Wikipedia. Again, this is easier to find from "what links here" rather than going through their contributions list. I tend to think that the way a user acts on talk pages may well be a better sign of how they will handle adminship abilities than simply basing it on what sorts of edits they make to articles. Hope that helps. Angela. 04:13, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Category naming conventions

Thanks for your suggestion re: category naming, but honestly, I guess I didn't know where to look to find evidence of these styles, because category-wise, the U.S. State categories (and I have categorized way more than just a bunch of NYC articles) were a blank slate&mdashthere was nothing there, no guiding structure. I'm indifferent as to naming convention preference (though I do appreciate consistency), but I think the organization I have been setting up within the state and city categories is a very good one. Is there a way to do top-down reorganizing of a category, to change the name and consequently change the category name tag within each article that linked to it? Maybe a bot is the only way...know anyone who can do that one here? Otherwise, I think it's wasted time to go through changing everything that's been done so far article by article if the category names are totally functional, and creating duplicative categories with the "proper" headers is obviously even worse. I also was wondering if the admins were eventually planning on making the category listings collapsible/expandible—having the capacity to see every article at once within the sub-categories of a given category would obviate disagreements about how specific categorizations should be (i.e., state by state v. undifferentiated national listings of airports). Do you have any info on this? The only FAQ I found on categories wasn't too helpful. Postdlf 2:06 9 June 2004 (UTC)

Category:Commercial item transport and distribution

Re your comment on my talk page regarding this category, I have replied on that page. --Gary D 09:44, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Your comment on "scattershot" got me to thinking about what was really going on with this category, and I ended up placing a discussion of "functional" versus "taxonomic" categories on Wikipedia:categorization. Thanks for providing the input and "sparking me up" on this. --Gary D 23:09, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I have taken your advice on subcategorizing the CITD companies. I agree this may enhance a drilling-down user's exploration of the core concepts in the parent CITD category, by reducing the number of "oh, that's just another company" experiences when clicking through the CITD category's entries. As with Category:World War II, once you get enough entries, subcategorization is inevitable, anyway. As an aside, I wonder what that magic number is for moving into subcategories. Fifty to a hundred listings seems well handled by the category display page, but if you got to a thousand that page would probably reduce to a noisy mush. Thanks for your input! --Gary D 19:28, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Shannon Airport

I moved the "Shannon International Airport" article because the airport is not generally, or officially, called "Shannon International Airport." Everyone calls it "Shannon Airport," including Aer Rianta (which does use the "Shannon International" designation on their website, but only once, and alongside a bunch of mentions of "Shannon Airport"). No Irish person would ever look for SNN under the title of "Shannon International." Just because it is international doesn't mean that it's called international. -- Sekicho 00:32, Jun 11, 2004 (UTC)

dba

DBA means "under as" - It is hardly "ambiguous". It tells which major carrier "umbrella" the regional airline operates under. For instance, Skywest operates under the name Delta Connection for some of its flights (e.g. such Skywest flights are booked through Delta). WhisperToMe 17:13, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Or we could link it to doing business as. WhisperToMe 17:12, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Ben Gurion Airport in Israel

Hi Burgund: There is already a category Category:Israel which has a subset of Category:Israel geography and I thought that is where Ben Gurion Airport should go as well as under the Israel category as it's the main gateway to Israel. I don't see the point at this stage of having a separate category for Israeli Airports as it's a tiny country about the size of Rhode Island so why list all its airports now UNLESS you are going to make real project of it. Best wishes. IZAK 11:04, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

• Hi again, I read your messages. Best wishes with your project/s, sounds very interesting. IZAK 02:23, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the tips

I look forward to contributing to this fine source of data. sam 06:54, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hey... You messaged me about copyrights in regards to my New York Subway articles. I realise the either similarity or near identical-ness (sorry, it's late, my words are failing me) to articles on nycsubway.org and the articles here. I am friends with David Pirmann, the webmaster of the site and helped to contribute to the writing of most of the original articles. I will also cite www.nycsubway.org once I get everything done. If you think this is still a problem, I would be happy to take everything down.

Well, my English is better than David's, and most of the content about individual subway stations remainds from 1998, and a loit has changed in the interim so I'm trying to update the text to read better for an interface without photographs. I like your suggestion about Melbourne, my only problem with it is the sheer number of stations is different from Melbourne to NYC. NYC has 486 stations, where as I am sure Melbourne has far fewer. If you have any suggestions for how to incorporate the two, I would love to hear/see them. I plan to make a Wiki for every station in NYC.

I don't mind doing all 486 stations on my own, it's not a big deal. Good luck on your own project! If you have any questions about Copenhagen Kastrup Airport or JFK or LaGuardia, I'd be happy to help out.

Chicago

I'm from Chicago. I don't think I've ever even been near British Columbia, unless Alaska counts :/ Grimey 03:53, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

• nope, not me
  • Pardon my intrusion, but Alaska is as far from Vancouver as Phoenix is from New York so thats a long way to go there, Grimey the roadboy.

Antonio Geographical madness Martin

Invitation

Hey Burgundavia! Thanks for the invitation1 I will be more than honored to help you with the airport project, just let me know what I should do there, as I would be flying into unchartered waters.

Once again, thanks, and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Flier Martin

Can you please revoke the Copyright Violation status of FIRST Frenzy: Raising the Bar? The owner has said it is OK, and if you don't feel comfortable with that, use the FIRSTwiki article. It has been 2 or 3 weeks. --Astronouth7303 21:32, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Request for AMA assistance

We have received an anonymous request for AMA assistance from an IP address, I have directed that individual to contact me if they wish not to create a Wikipedia account. If you are interested in helping please let me know and if I hear from this individual I will try and put you in contact. See Wikipedia:AMA Requests for Assistance. Thank you. — © Alex756 03:02, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Mad Crowd Disease

The Google URL was because 1-all of the articles listed were copies of what was posted, and 2-I was having problems bringing up any of the pages at the time I posted them, but you can see the copivios in the Google listings. RickK 04:36, Jun 18, 2004 (UTC)

So what if they're 404's? You can still see the part of the original article which matches what the poster put into the article. RickK 04:50, Jun 18, 2004 (UTC)

Category:Banks

Your work on changing the naming convention on the subcategories of Category:Banks from XX banks to Banks of XX might be commendable, but do you intend to follow through on the work you began? The convention that you implemented has its pros and cons, but it is at least closer to the established convention used for the naming of Wikipedia articles. What is harder to understand is why you intentionally destroyed one of the established category sub hierarchies in that process. Replacing XX companies with Companies of XX might have been systematic, but if you don't create and convert those categories, your work has been more destructive than productive. Are you, right now, in the process or recategorizing the various companies categories and articles or do we need to start reverting parts of the effort? Cheers, -- Mic 18:32, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I am going to move all the those today. I meant to do it yesterday but I was really tired and it was quite late. There are a lot of categories that follow the XX banks style, which I was given to understand wasn't really a naming convention. I put that down to a lot of people just creating catgories without thinking. Sorry about the confusion, as I am sure I flooded you watchlist. Cheers. Burgundavia 23:16, Jun 18, 2004 (UTC)

I do believe that using the same or a smiliar naming convention as for the Wikipedia articles has a slight advantage. If the change is going to be made it is better to do it relatively early, rather than to wait until all categories for all countries has to be changed. I would hate to see an effort of this magnitude disbanded half way, but if there is a comprehensive effort to implement a complete change over I would only be happy to help. Cheers, -- Mic 08:10, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

My primary push these days is Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports, but I will help you if you want to help move them all. It is a big uphill fight. Most of the categories have already been created in the XX something style. Burgundavia 08:48, Jun 19, 2004 (UTC)

That's the reason why I am hesitant to take it on myself. Currently there are two competing conventions and it will need to be resolved at some point. Either system works and I see a greater value in having a single system, than over which system is used, even if one of them may be preferred. -- Mic 10:47, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Well the problem with the existing system is we cannot use American for US. And US banks sounds horrible. Nor can we really use British. So the other system can be more consistent. Burgundavia 11:06, Jun 19, 2004 (UTC)

Reverse redirect!

Hi, I notice you have been trying to redirect my pages, but you have switched from the right one to the wrong one (may have been my fault)! Please reverse it... Simonides 05:18, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Re: Third Taiwan Strait crisis

Thanks for the compliment! There's a lot of room for improvement... --Jiang 06:03, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I propose that if we've applied Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries to an article, then it should be given individual categories tags. These categories will then be subcategories of the parent country. There's a general discussion at Wikipedia talk:Categorization and this should probably go there.

For ROC, as I've said before, the best way to go about this is using politically neutral terms for non-political topics (Taiwan + mainland China vs. ROC + PRC ). People from either side of the conflict share the same definition of what mainland China means. For the other cases, I'm not sure. Northern Cyprus can definately be considered part of Cyprus as it considers itself the legitimate Cyrpriot government. The question to ask is whether we've treated it as a country. If we start an article with "Puntland is a region in northeastern Somalia" then we imply that it's part of Somalia. Maybe create a separate category and make it a subcategory of Somalia... --Jiang 07:44, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Re: Hey Welcome to Wikipedia

Hi, thanks for your message. Yes, I'm completely new to Wikipedia, so pardon me if I have made a few mistakes. I will do my best to correct them and am figuring out the formating thing. Sorry about the "auto-biography," yes, I did confuse it with the "user talk." I hope I'm actually posting this right, by clicking the "+." Anyway, thanks for the welcome.

newkai

New Airport

Hey again,

I wrote up an entry on the Greater Binghamton Airport in New York. I added the category link at the bottom just like that of Syracuse Hancock International Airport, but I was wondering about the category page. It lists the 'G' letter twice in two different columns... Kind of confusing!

Thanks for your help.

newkai 00:38, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Oh wow you're fast at responding... I saw that Greater Binghamton Airport airport had been added, went back to edit my post in your talk and... Well anyway, everything's fine now... I just overlooked the fact that 'G' appears in two columns.

newkai 00:38, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Airport guidelines

"Add link from the main city that it serves, so as not to create an orphan "

In other words, following that DFW Airport has to be linked from Dallas and Fort Worth, the cities it serves, but does not have to be linked from Irving, Euless, and Grapevine.

I want to modify this so the city the airport is actually located in gets linked to, e.g. Irving, Euless, and Grapevine are required to link to the airport as well. WhisperToMe 03:53, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)