Talk:Earlestown railway station

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Earlestown

Earlestown is a station roughly half-way between Liverpool and Manchester on the LMRExplain 'Liverpool & Manchester Railway (LMR)' main line whose original name was Newton. It became a junction with the building of the Warrington and Newton RailwayExplain 'Warrington & Newton Railway' , and a triangle junction when the west curve was laid, giving access to Liverpool from Warrington. When the Grand JunctionExplain 'Grand Junction Railway (GJR)' line was completed in 1837 Newton became part of the route from Birmingham both to Liverpool and, via the east curve, to the north; the building of Runcorn bridge and the Winwick cut-off later provided more direct routes from Crewe to Liverpool and the north respectively. The name Earlestown came in 1853 when the LNWR wagon works were established there, under the supervision of a veteran LNWR director, Sir Hardman Earle, but the station name was changed to Earlestown Junction only in 1861 (after a spell as Warrington Junction).

http://www.sthelens.gov.uk/yourcommunity/nlwcih.nsf/0/0e4f1977ba024e6680256ae90036e5f4?OpenDocument

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lmno (talk • contribs) 10:00, October 14, 2004

Early history

Is there any evidence that the original station building dates to 1835? Dawson dates it to 1844/5 in his recent book on the Liverpool & Manchester Railway. CastWider (talk) 22:06, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

One of the problems with describing the infrastructure of the early L&MR is that, apart from Crown Street, Liverpool Road and one or two others, several of the "stations" weren't stations in the modern sense - there were no raised platforms or permanent buildings. They were just convenient places to stop close to a road crossing, and appeared in (or disappeared from) the published schedules according to traffic demand. Some of them appeared under different names in different sources, some names were reused for stations at locations different from the original use of that name. It is possible that Stephenson, on planning the railway, did not wish to incur the expense of permanent buildings at locations which might fail to generate traffic. So Earlestown may have started as a temporary structure, acquiring more permanent buildings once the traffic had become established. The choice of location for the station was simple - it was the triangular junction at the northern end of the GJR. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:26, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. However, the article asserts that surviving buildings date to 1835 and that they are the oldest railway buildings in continuous passenger use. It would be useful to clarify the situation with respect to Edge Hill, for example, which dates in part to 1836. Did Edge Hill temporarily withdraw from passenger use? If not, then it would seem to have a better claim unless I'm mssing something. CastWider (talk) 18:43, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Richard Evans Collieries? Early 1830's?

Check when Richard Evans started in the north of England mining business before including the name in text about the early 1830's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.94.142 (talk) 21:26, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Historical station names

Currently the infobox lists these as the historical station names:

15 September 1830 Opened as Newton Junction

July 1852 Renamed Warrington Junction

November 1861 Renamed Earlestown Junction

5 June 1950 Renamed Earlestown

However, it doesn't seem like this is entirely correct. For example, see below for a timetable in 1832 which lists the station as "Warrington Junction":

"Travelling By Railway". The Guardian. 6 October 1832. p. 1. Retrieved 17 March 2024 – via Newspapers.com.

FozzieHey (talk) 17:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)